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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 17, 2014 23:54:22 GMT
Where we mourn the loss of SHM.
I don't know how this works. We have three action between us (roleblock, kill, poison) but only two scums left. Can one person send in two actions or do we just have to choose two actions out of those three?
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 18, 2014 0:01:03 GMT
Yeah, unless Blade does this different, I have to send the poison, you have to send the RB (which I'm not sure is useful at this point) and either can send the kill.
Also, sorry, but I find it hard to pay a lot of attention when the day is already decided. I'll be more active tomorrow. I can point to Reg mafia to show that, I was town and the same thing happened.
So, what do you want to do?
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Night 3
Mar 18, 2014 0:04:57 GMT
via mobile
Post by corrik on Mar 18, 2014 0:04:57 GMT
Kill gravy poison Panthera
Roleblock Cross.
Honestly.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 0:11:57 GMT
Hm. Well who is "confirmed" at this point? Leo for sure. Gravy pretty close (especially once SHM flips). Raka too (except to Panth). New Guy (although people still suspect him for some reason so he isn't really "confirmed" or much of a concern).
So I'd say kill/poison one of Leo/Gravy and do the other action to the other one? Leo is the better (and more obvious) choice. I feel bad for Gravy though and everything I've seen from him makes me think he wants out of the game. We could do a mercy killing, poison Leo and rb Cross? I dunno, what do you think?
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 0:12:53 GMT
Corrik what is your reasoning for those?
Besides Cross that one is obvious.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 18, 2014 0:20:32 GMT
We need to kill either Leo or Raka. They are the "most" confirmed.
Panth is a fine poison target.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 18, 2014 0:21:07 GMT
Gravy can still look bad when there's a second kill next night.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 0:21:52 GMT
Nah. we should keep Raka alive as long as possible. Him and Panthera tomorrow are a recipe for town disaster.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 18, 2014 0:29:20 GMT
So we kill Leo, yeah?
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 1:28:17 GMT
Leo is the most logical choice, yeah. But I want to hear Corrik's strategy too. I'm also partial to killing Gravy just to do him a favor as he's basically confirmed anyway too.
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Post by Corrik on Mar 18, 2014 2:12:29 GMT
Corrik what is your reasoning for those? Besides Cross that one is obvious. here is my reasoning. Newguy isn't confirmed no matter what anyone says. Gravy is actually getting pretty dangerous in what he is saying. I think you should get rid of him now. Leo is cozying up to you, Suprak. It might be good to keep him around for just now. Panthera is someone who seems to be coming around on the idea of you being scum. I would want Gravy and Panthera gone as soon as possible. Raka is easily swayed. Not too worried about him. I am new, Death, and Cross are your potential mislynches. All you need to do is point out how Cly slid all game due to I am new's attempted hammer due to scum would never do that... to point out why I am new here is not confirmed as Town. And he has done nothing to contribute, has been bad, and should be easy to manipulate Raka against. I want to get the poisonous minds away first... Gravy and Panthera. Sure. Leo is confirmed... but who cares if one confirmed Town is there? You aren't trying to mislynch everyone. And, the confirmed Town siding with you makes you look better anyways.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 4:08:20 GMT
Oh, I'm going to argue for newguy as confirmed. Anyone that argues against I will crush and then try to feed to town as scum going for a mislynch.
Confirmed town siding with you might look better, but leaving that voice alive when it is the next obvious kill will raise some questions. Leo is smart. He will reevaluate his reads as the game progresses. He isn't Fett, sticking to one read the whole game because IT MUST BE RIGHT CHRIS ISN'T SCUM YOU HEATHENS augh FFD Flashback. I've always though gravy seems like a good town player when he's paying attention, but the thing is we only need to outlast him another day. He seems much more likely to pounce on Cross than Shad at this point and I've dropped little suspicions on Shad this last day too so I won't look to bad if I go after him as well. I'd rather save Cross one more day though if we could, so maybe we do want to kill gravy. Cross had this post today that was like "so no cop role hmmm? what does everyone this about that hmmmmmmmmmm?" and it was one of like three things he said. Makes me think he might still be hiding a cop claim because he doesn't want to out himself yet. If we could get him to mylo and get him to claim cop under pressure, when he didn't say anything about it all game, man would that be sweet. Killing gravy would probably buy Cross that other day, but then we'd need to sell Leo on Death over Shad because Shad was the person he said he'd want grilled tomorrow, even though he has good feels about him.
On the other hand, gravy doesn't seem like he wants to play, so I thought we might just want to shoot gravy poison Leo rather than the other way around because at this point I'm not sure the game could progress without Leo >_> Probably not what scum should be thinking about, but IANH and Cross both posted like three times both of the last two days, Death doesn't seem interested, gravy clearly doesn't want to be here, and Raka and Panth would just attack each other all day. It'd be the most boring day of mafia ever. At least Leo seems interested. I feel like that should be rewarded. And in regards to gravy, he hasn't ever really gone after me or Shad all game. I mean, he's dropped suspicion here and there, but there's never anything to it. "He might be bussing Raka!" or "Corrik could've been fake bussing you!" aren't real suspicion, and I think he just thinks I'm dumb town and is 1) peeved he had to explain himself to me and 2) too bored to really care.
I'd rather not poison Panthera. If we could off Leo/gravy in some way today, maybe we kill Panthera the next day with a normal shot. I'm not sure I buy his claim, quite honestly. The way he said it, something about "man I should've picked the goalie maybe I would've got a cool power" just seems...weird. Wouldn't surprise me if he was hiding bulletproof or some other low power role. Of all the claims, I buy him/Cross the least. I've sort of come around to IANH and Death being vanilla, although I was honestly more expecting a 10/4/1 split here but whatever.
I say shoot gravy/poison Leo/rb Cross or shoot Leo/poison gravy/rb cross.
If Panthera is to come after me, let him come. He seems like a smart guy. The day might finally get fun!
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 18, 2014 4:09:55 GMT
I mean, imagine if we get that mislynch tomorrow. Leo and gravy dead. Who else would we want dead? Raka? IANH?
Going into the the next day with Suprak/Shad/Raka/Death/Cross/Panthera/IANH minus the mislynch doesn't sound too bad.
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Post by Corrik on Mar 18, 2014 12:48:33 GMT
I have another idea.
Confirmed not being mislynched Leo
Most likely not being mislynched
Raka Gravy
Possible mislynches Death Cross Iamnew Panthera
Scum Shad Suprak
9 Alive.
Shoot one tonight.
8 Alive.
1 Mislynch
Shoot 1 at night. Use poison TOMORROW night.
6 Alive.
^ No Lynch due to even number to make it 5.
Extra poison kill hits they had no idea about. Scum wins.
In this scenario you need just 1 mislynch...
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 18, 2014 17:54:04 GMT
The only way that would fail is if I get lynch tomorrow, I guess.
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