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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 8:20:03 GMT
Dangit I was hoping he wouldn't hammer yet. I'm really busy tomorrow so I'm not sure how around I'll be and I wanted to go to sleep now >_>
Umm...lets see. Kill the confirmed roles still, I think.
The tastiest options are Leo/Charton as both are mega confirmed. Gravy to a lesser extent (we'll see what happens with the body count tomorrow and might even be able to drive a lynch his way but I really think SMH is sunk regardless). Raka is "confirmed" but people still seem to want to lynch him so we can leave him around.
We need to kill the person least likely to be targeted by a possible doc save and also decide what to do with Charton. Do we really believe Chris is telling the truth about coming back? I have such a hard time seeing that since he told us day 1. He's seen tons of games where scum just trust lying town to help direct their shots, which is what I think he was hoping to do here. We could play it safe and roleblock Charton as I don't think he'd be able to revive Chris then, but our rb might be better served on Cross again since we didn't get any nasty cop scans day 2.
I'd think maybe: kill Leo (again, doc might target Charton if they believe Chris), roleblock Cross? Nothing solid yet, just a first idea. Let me think on it some more and let me know what you guys think.
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Post by Corrik on Mar 15, 2014 8:26:53 GMT
Suggestion:
Kill Cross Roleblock Charton
Assuming Charton has to act to revive, if Chris doesn't rise from the dead... Charton no longer is "confirmed"?
I also don't why you guys are accepting him as confirmed. Couldn't Blade have given Chris a Mason Scumbuddy to play with his mind?
Then they will say why did they kill Chris then... so Charton could lie repeatedly about what Chris actually was saying to influence the game. Bang.
Obviously end game theorizing.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 8:30:05 GMT
Before I respond, I would like Blade to ok Corrik posting here still. I know he technically "left" us but Ytterbium never posted here and he insta killed himself in the dumbest act of dumbery I ever saw, so it isn't really like we're getting an extra player to help strategize.
Pretty pretty please?
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 8:33:13 GMT
Also, you owe us for sticking us with Ytterbium in the first place.
"What is your flavor"
"My flavor is I didn't get a PM"
"My flavor is scum oops"
HAHAHAHA
Oh man. Still totally worth it.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 15, 2014 17:32:00 GMT
I kind of want to just kill Charton. I honestly don't believe that Chris is going to "rise again".
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 18:24:21 GMT
Oh, I think Charton is a great target too, not to prevent Chris from coming back (which I don't buy) but to knock out another "confirmed". I get what Corrik's saying, but based on role who are we going to have a harder time lynching: Death claimed vanilla or Charton claimed mason in direct contact with Chris who also flipped mason and who both claimed mason buddies on day 1? I want to get rid of these confirmed roles as quickly as we can. Cops can be roleblocked. Docs can be outmaneuvered. Confirmed players are dangerous as that gives town a known town voice to listen to and removes a mislynch target.
Charton/Leo are my two favorite targets for this reason. I'd be fine with shooting Charton since we don't think Chris can just come back. However, what if the doc thinks he can? I don't know for sure who is the more likely save option tonight, but I have to believe Charton since even if the doc doesn't believe Chris, we shot Chris night 1 and they might think we are coming back for Charton.
Leo is also really active and a good player making good points. He seems to buy both me and you as town for now, so I guess another day might not hurt as SHM seems like an obvious lynch and people stop pushing so hard once they have a lynch in site. However, Chris seemed far more subdued yesterday even when he was still technically in the game. I feel like a lot of fun for him comes from grilling and breaking people face to face, and waiting for Charton to be online at the same time as he is and then having to talk through him sapped his energy a bit.
And do you just want to roleblock Cross again? Only people worth roleblocking are Cross/Panth/Charton, but I was getting a vanilla sort of vibe from Panthera day 1 and I don't buy Charton having Chris reviving powers.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 15, 2014 18:30:25 GMT
Yeah, I want to shoot Charton. Have SHM send obv. RBing Cross would be fine.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 18:33:53 GMT
1. Raka - Some Amazing Race contestants, "1 double vote hammer" (CONFIRMED) 2. Newguy - Joker, "Jester" (Vanilla) (CLAIMED) 3. Panth - 5. Cross - Dwight Schrute (CLAIMED Flavor) 7. Death - Townsville (Vanilla) (CLAIMED) 8. Leo - WV, Mayor (CONFIRMED) 10. Gravy - Archer, Vig (CLAIMED - Confirmed to have a shot) 11. Charton - Mason (channeling Chris) 12. Red - These are the guys we're still looking at. Red will eat his poison tonight most likely, so we don't have to worry about him. He could be doc/scanner/I have no idea what since he's posted like three times and apparently is stuck in the 1920s visiting relatives in the dust bowl. I buy Cross as Dwight otherwise why waste an entire day with that weird flavor. Dwight doesn't fit Doc at all, but could fit scanner pretty easily. Gravy could be some weird jack role I guess that had a shot, but I would buy him as a sk over that because why shoot day 1 if you had a scan or something? Even if he is a sk, I think he targets town still as we just lynched scum last night but we can worry about that later. He played really weird yesterday (Raka was not even on his runner up list which was Death, Cross, and SHM) but then as soon as Leo showed up he was like "oh jeez I wanted to shoot Raka too man I wish I did" and then was on him the entire day even once SHM basically showed up and claimed scum. It makes me think he could be a sk. Either that or he doesn't care at all, saw his friend Leo show up and just decided to have some fun with him. Either way, we can leave him alone. Panthera seems to be drawing soft suspicion from a lot of the game so I'd like to leave him alive. I get sort of a vanilla feel from him, but I've never played with him before so he could be hiding additional town power. Leo is confirmed. Raka is confirmed as double voter, but might still get a bit of an odd look. Depending on how tomorrow plays out, we might have to kill him too if no one is interested in lynching him any more. Charton is confirmed. Death and new guy both claimed vanilla and I buy it from them tentatively. Both could be hiding town power, and maybe new guy is playing intentionally bad to avoid a shot. Or maybe he's just awful. I can't tell. Death isn't having his best game and keeps getting distracted by small stuff. Dunno what to make of it.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 18:35:24 GMT
You sure? Aren't you worried about a potential doc save? You don't think he's likely to draw it? I'd be fine with Charton but I feel like he is a better save option than Leo right now.
I guess even if he is saved, we still remove Red.
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 15, 2014 18:37:22 GMT
I dunno.
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 18:44:02 GMT
Well, if you were doc who would you save?
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Post by suprakthescum on Mar 15, 2014 19:05:47 GMT
Blade just posted asking for another replace. Dunno who it is. My guess wold be Red, and if he is actively looking for a replace maybe we didn't kill him for some reason >_>
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Post by scummyshad on Mar 15, 2014 19:37:37 GMT
I don't think I would save Charton, because I would be thinking that scum would think I would save him. Honestly the only time I would actively save the "obvious" one is if there is a scanning role.
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Post by SuprakGuest on Mar 15, 2014 21:18:06 GMT
Ok, I'll leave it in your hands Shad as I'm going out for the night again! My suggestion would be kill Leo, rb Cross (obviously with SHM sending in the kill). I feel like this is the one time a doc might definitely go with the obvious save if they believe Chris as they'd technically be saving two people. Leo also strikes me as more dangerous than "never here" Charton, even with Chris trying to talk through him. Plus, with Leo gone I can become the primary "proponent" of a SHM lynch, as gravy/Panth/Death all seemed interested in going after someone else. I haven't had a chance to reread the existing topics though so I could be totally wrong. If you are worried about Chris telling the truth (I think it was more likely he was trying to direct our shot away from him to buy him an extra day) we can rb Charton as well. I'm also fine shooting Charton instead if you prefer that route. I leave the decision completely up to you. I'll be back late tonight again. Good luck!
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Post by SuprakGuest on Mar 15, 2014 21:22:31 GMT
Although, with us shooting Chris night 1 a doc might not think we believe we trust the claim Chris made anyway and decide to save Leo instead.
Alternatively, there might not even be a doc and I'm fussing over nothing. With two masons, a vig (?), a mayor, and a double voter, maybe Blade worked to balance this huge number of confirmable roles by cutting a doc or scanner (an uncountered doc or scanner in a game this size is another basically "confirmable" role).
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